I'm going to back Todd 110% on this one. The term "parts car" is one that is used here recklessly, far too often without giving any real thought to what it means. The biggest things that everyone seems to take for granted are both the fiberglass underbody, and the stainless steel panels. So, when was the last time anyone here had to weld a floor panel, or trunk bottom, or rebuld the unibody pieces on their cars? That's what I thought, NEVER! Worst case senario, is a toasted chassis and suspension. Whoopty firckin doo! Welding doesn't have to be involved, because you can bolt the entire car back together! Suspension shouldn't be any different than any other car, and the chassis only bolts back together with 12 bolts. OOOOH!, hold me back on that one! A few interior components (not really that expensive if you decide to customize the inside), some fuel system work (which in comparison to carbs, manifolds etc, isn't that much more expensive, plus you can easily drop and clean the tank) and bam! Car back on the road! When grading on a curve, car restoration of a DeLorean is almost comparative to a Snap-Tite model! Now let's talk about parts supply. We have an expansive and plentiful amount of parts available to us. You name it, and it's only a phone call, an e-mail or an online SSL order form away! What's rare is usually reproduced, and what components warrant improvements have them done. So, with an abundant supply, and a type of vehicle that I'd be willing to say is atleast 70% rustproof, what in the hell do we need parts cars for? There is absolutely no justification. Todd is totally correct in saying profit is the motivation. And that is the wrong type of motivation to have when it comes to this hobby within this particular marquee. If you want a car that's ready to go, save up and buy the ones that fit that qualification. Otherwise, leave the basket cases, and the project cars to those of us who want to restore them. My car was in only slightly better condition than this one in as it had the fuel system work complete, and the rear lenses were faded. But it was also a double-threat. It was owned by the typical "No I won't sell it, 'cause I'm gonna fix it" types. Yeah, right. So when the son (and I say son because the orignial purchaser/owner is long dead) did decide to fix it, he decided to save a buck and send the car to every hole-in-the-wall garage possible. Even when my Clutch M/C was repaired, it was "booger-welded"! It was finally sent to a mechanic that could tune the motor, and got it running. They were fed-up with the car, and the mechanic wanted it off his property. They just wanted to sell the car, and didn't care what happened to it. And then I came along, and the rest is history. To this day, I can still remember first seeing her sitting behind the fence, and the guy opening the gate. Four flat tires, a scorched interior, 12 years of grime from just sitting, and that musty smell like a crypt from being sealed up so long. Two things happened that day. I finally found MY DeLorean, and I saved one by keeping it on the road. The moral of the story? With the exception of an ultra-severe wreck, every DeLorean out there is a canidate for restoration. They all have owners, but they haven't yet picked up their cars. ;) That is the best philosophy to have. And in the end, I am thankful for many things about my car. The second most being that some uncaring vulture didn't get to my car before I did. I cringe at the thought that someone (including those here on the DML that share this "parts car" mentality) didn't get to my car first, and dismantle it simply for profit. Or because they were too damn lazy and/or inept to restore it themselves! In other words, please leave these types of cars to those of us here that are willing to restore them, and not just "rape" them as has so appropriately said! -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless@xxxx> wrote: > I'm disagreeing yet again on the parts car comment. > This car could be a really nice project for someone. > It's been abused and abandoned and it needs a little > help but it does not deserved to be raped in the name > of "parts car" I'd like one person to tell me what a > "perfect" Delorean is, because I've seen several daily > drivers which need alot of work. Prices seem to be all > over the board but you find a car like this and > everyone screams "parts car" I think there just > screaming "PROFIT!" I bought my car because I love the > DeLorean and I wanted to save a car. I think different > then most, but when I bought my car I wasn't thinking > about reselling it ever. And I don't plan on it > either. The term "parts cars" seems to fly around with > no effort. One day everyone is going to turn around > and there will not be many of these cars left. There > are plently of new parts availabe for restorations, I > know I've done the research and I'm involved in it. If > your in the DeLorean comunity to make a profit then > you don't deserve to own one of these cars. Thats my > opion. I'm entiled to it. End of disscution. > > Todd > Vin 5386 [moderator snip]