Just another of my two cents and not to flame Martin's suggestion, there are a few things to know about "caps" or better known as "stiffening capacitors" in the auto hi-fi business. ? First, if a good audio amplifier is well engineered and well made, there should really be no need for a stiffening capacitor. ? Unless you are running one "extreme" high output amplifier or multiple amplifiers which will requires the extra current, one should stay away from using the stiffening capacitors. ? The primary purpose of the stiffening capacitors is to aid the amplifier if you are playing the system at HIGH VOLUME for long a period of time or for short extreme loud bursts of bass signals. ? The reality is, how long does one listen to the system that loud while driving? ? *** Folks, please do keep in mind that high volume or loud sound will deteriorate your hearing and once your hearing is damage, THERE IS NO REVERSAL. ? You will be wearing a hearing aid afterwards as an "amplifier" for ambient sound in your ear or ears! Unless the car is used is entered and used in sound competition, stiffening capacitor should be avoid. ? All the stiffening capacitor will do to your alternator, is soak up all the current that the alternator generates. ? It makes the alternator labor by having it putting out all the time when there is no need for it to do so. ? The stiffening capacitor will over tax your alternator and may cause an early demise. ? If you are going to, or must use a stiffening capacitor, you must do some electrical calculations and upgrade to an alternator that can produce the amps required..... Special custom built alternators ARE NOT CHEAP.... Just ask Mr. John Hervey for an alternator over 150 amps. Instead of using a stiffening capacitor, one should first make sure the battery is in good order and then second, by upgrading the alternator that can supply the current that is demanded by the vehicle and then the added on amplifier's current demand. ? This way the correct alternator will chargeup the battery and supply the current to run all of the total electrical demands. A point on amplifiers. ? Many amplifiers are "hyped" in their power rating and many retailers are interested in making sales only and that all they are interested in doing..... making sales. ? These amplifiers are poorly engineered with poorly regulated power input stage which is one of the reason why stiffening capacitors are required. ? Many stiffening capacitors starts at around $75.00 US to much as $450.00 US. ? Get a well made amplifier with true RMS output which has a good regulated power input stage and you will not need a stiffening capacitor. ? This way you will save the money. ? Lower cost and poor performing amplifier with a stiffening capacitor will almost be the same cost of a decent well made higher price amplifier. ? So, get a better high price amplifier, this is a better way to go as a compromise in money but not in sound quality or quantity. Kayo Ong #5508 Lic 9D NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 1/15/03 4:16:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, webmaster@xxxx writes: > > However, if you experience problems (and I doubt you will) by using a > different ground point, you can snub it at the amplifier by putting a > capacitor across the power supply terminals. You can buy caps for this > purpose from car hi fi shops. > > Martin > > #1458 > #4426 > FAMILY=" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]