In a message dated 1/14/03 4:04:12 PM Central Standard Time, watbmv@xxxx writes: > Also has anyone tried the new > FRAM plugs that have the oil drain hose. It seems like you simply twist > on the drain hose and it releases the catch and starts to drain. I'm > not sure which model number it is for the FRAM drain plug but it seems > like a neat idea if it actually works. My friend has this thing installed on his 2001 Monte Carlo. it is unlikely that the hose thing will fit due to the short clearance between the drain plug and the engine cradle. you could always take it back if it doesn't work, but for the same price you can get that snap-on tool and use aluminum foil like you have been - and you have the peace of mind of knowing that the hose thing isn't installed all kinked and crooked! Andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]