Tom & List, This is what I got for my future car since so many others have had spoken highly of it in the past. To give credit where credit is due listed below is the link for JC Whitney as previously posted by Walt & Kevin Abato. Shannon Y VIN# less than 5 months to go! -- " Message: 21 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:52:32 -0400 From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxx> Subject: Re: 3rd Brake Light/Led Lights I am positive that the JCWhitney item http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=46330&BQ=jcw2 is what Bob Zilla used. (Product Number 83ZX0680R) " -- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 07:34:18 -0500 From: Watkins Family <watbmvATmegalink.net> Subject: 3rd Brake light Not to beat this to death but does anyone have a source or a brand/model number for a 3rd brake light that fits underneath the top louver? I don't mind the one that sits on top of the upper louver but for pure asthetics I think I'd rather place it underneath so it is invisible until activated. Tom #005732 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com