Date: 25 Dec 2002 Re: 'Glowing Header' Hello Scott, the last (and only) time this happened to me was a completely dead catalytic converter on both sides. I drove the car 3 miles. The telltale sign was no accelereation or power when stepping on the accelerator. It burnt all the rubbers in any joint and gasket I could think off (including suspension). The glow in the engine bay was neat, though. Needless to say, it was a costly experience on an Aston Martin ... Arthur G. Sutsch