Re: Teflon oil additive

["David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxx>" <jtrealty@xxxx>]

This thread reminds me of the controversy about detergent and 
non-detergent oils long ago. Every product has it's applications and 
situations that are best suited to it. If you have a motor that has 
always been on a diet of synthetic oil then the best thing to do is to 
stay with it. The converse is also true, if you have a motor that has 
been on a steady diet of ordinary oil then it is not a good thing to 
switch. On a limited use car you will not wear out the oil if you 
change it even every 2 years as it is not the oil that wears out so 
much as the additives package. If the motor is overheated it should be 
changed as soon as possible. If you can't remember when it was last 
changed or you just bought the car and don't know then change it. Keep 
an extra quart of oil in the car of the same brand so you always have 
the same oil in the motor, it isn't good to even mix brands.
The only additive I use is Marvel Mystery Oil. I put it in a rebuilt 
engine for the initial fill and if I suspect a stuck ring or valve I 
try it and it seems to help. Other than that the products that are 
advertised only seem to do one thing, make money for the producers. If 
there was "magic in a bottle" don't you think the auto manufacurers 
would endorse it? As of now no auto manufacurer recomends ANY 
additive. The best thing you can do for any engine is to regularly 
change the oil and filter, the interval can be up to you but no more 
than 5,000 miles on ordinary oil, less is wasteful and more is pushing 
it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker@xxxx> wrote:
> The current thread on the use of "synthetic oil" all
> started because of a request for information about oil
> with a teflon additive. PLEASE understand that
> "synthetic oils" do NOT have teflon additives - -
> UNLESS THEY SAY SO.
> 
> Synthetic oils - YES. Teflon additives - NO.
> 
> Dick Ryan
> 
> 
> --- "therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas@xxxx>"
> <DMCVegas@xxxx> wrote:
> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Senatorpack@xxxx
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Is Mobil one synthetic better than conventional
> > oils? 
> > > 
> > > My BMW's (and other European Cars) have a decal
> > attached under the 
> > hood "requesting" the use of Mobil One synthetic. 
> > > 
> > > The BMW dealers use zero 0w/30 oil.
> > > 
> > > Michael Pack
> > 
> > From many pages online both by Synthetic oil
> > manufacturers, and 3rd parties, 
> > all agree that Synthetic oils do indeed have
> > benefits over conventional motor 
> > oils. Specificly, the benefit is increased
> > resistance to wear within various 
> > categorites, which in turn leads to longer engine
> > life & $ savings. Now as a 
> > disclaimer, I'm no ASE certified mechanic, these are
> > just paraphrases of 
> > simular claims by both regular people, and synthetic
> > manufacturers that I've 
> > found on the internet (and of course if it's on the
> > internet it must be true, right? 
> > :p), as well as other sources. So if somthing is
> > wrong here, please correct me.
> > 
> > 1.First of course is that synthetics have longer
> > intervals between oil changes. 
> > This is the biggest factor of all that offsets the
> > higher price ( the biggest turn off 
> > for DeLoreans due to how much we use!), if not make
> > them cheaper 
> > according to some.
> > 
> > 2. Syntheics don't nessisary lubricate "better" per
> > se as they can lubricate 
> > quicker because of a better flow when either hot or
> > cold. And of course the 
> > next reason...
> > 
> > 3. Synthetics are even more resistant to breakdown
> > and oxydation due to 
> > extreme temperatures and harsher environments.
> > 
> > 4. And of course there are the other things such as
> > resistance to 
> > contaiminates, less wear on components, and improved
> > fuel economy due to 
> > less resistance.
> > 
> > The only disadvantage I've seen is the "older seals
> > can develop a leak issue". 
> > Synthetic doesn't damage oil seals, but since it
> > flows easier/has smaller 
> > molecules, it can flow thru smaller cracks in seals
> > where conventional oil 
> > would not have. As far as this goes, I've seen an
> > even split between people 
> > who've actually switched to synthetic (vs. those who
> > "know" someone who 
> > has) that this will or will not occur. I'm assuming
> > there are other variables 
> > though that have contributed to this, so I'm still
> > not 100% convinced that leaks 
> > will or will not occur.
> > 
> > Now if you have a vehicle that specificly requests
> > the exclusive use of 
> > synthetic oils, then you do definatly need to stick
> > with them. Newer engines 
> > that require specific types/grades of motor oils do
> > so because they are 
> > engineered specificly for them. Anything other than
> > these stated can reduce 
> > econmy, and increase wear, aside from even voiding
> > the vehicle's warranty in 
> > some cases. As was explained to me, some newer
> > motors can have smaller 
> > ports where the oil passes thru than previous, and
> > the wrong oil will not be 
> > able to flow thru as fast causing less lubrication.
> > 
> > Now as to which type of synthetic motor oil to use,
> > who knows. Apparently 
> > some petrolium companies are changing the definition
> > of "synthetic oil", so 
> > I've no clue. However, I can tell you this. When you
> > buy synthetic oil, watch out 
> > for that "Multi-blend" stuff. It's just regular oil
> > with a little synthetic blended in to 
> > up the price a bit. That it itself defeats the
> > purpose of using synthetics.
> > 
> > -Robert
> > vin 6585 "X"
> > 
> > 
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