(Moderator's note: Robert closes here with an invitaion to futher the discussion off line. I agree, what more can be said on this subject here on the list, the subject has run it's course so I'll end it here. Bruce Benson, this week's moderator) WHAT? We should be happy because the DeLorean simply got a mention on their show, no matter what kind of comments were made?!? That is in no way acceptable! I get engouh attention in my own car that I don't need to "beg for crumbs" by having someone run some footage of the car on TV. I have put a great deal of love into my car, and have gotten back an even greater amount of pride in return. So for some mongloid that calls themselves an actor to simply rip my car apart in the feeble attempt to gain attention for themselves, I take great offence because that really does hurt me! Occurances such as this program should not be ignored. We should contact those people who are responsable and let them know how we feel. Let it be known that it isn't acceptable. As far as Quentin Wilson is concerned, he is not an expert. Just as many descriptions on the internet state, he is simply a presenter on a television show. Quentin Wilson is to the automotive world what Bob Villa is to homebuilders. He's just an actor on a television show wearing a mic, and reading a script. That's all. His case though is a bit differant than most. His is not a case of typical ignorance, the man seems to have an outright vendetta against the DeLorean. Why, I've no idea. Maybe he tried to buy one once and got turned down for financing. Who knows. In any case he is yet another person trying to negativly exploit the DeLorean image for whatever gains. Both JZD, and the DMC-12 are popular icons, albeit not the most mainstream. And that of course is the the downside. Because of such an amount of negative press over the years, it is assumed that these are subects that should be lambasted. Awareness is good, but it only goes so far. It's easier to change a law than it is a tradition. So, what I propose that we should do is make it "Politicly Incorrect" to say anything negative about the either the man, or the car. If someone comes up with an inaccuracy, not only correct them, but educate them in a way so that they will *want* to learn more (explaining the underbody process/design is a quick way to accomplish this). And if someone throws an off color remark at you about the car, don't be afraid to tell them it wasn't funny, and that you don't appriciate it. If diplomacy is being able to tell someone that they're going to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip, then it should be no problem to plant the seed of self-doubt in someone who just told you that offensive comment that they should feel somewhat guilty about what they just said. I know this is something pretty heavy to say, but a good numer of people here appear to feel the same way. There is more to say about the subject, and if you'd like to know shoot me an e-mail off the list. -Robert vin 6585 "X"