RE: [DML] Walt quitting

["Marc A. Levy" <malevy@xxxx>]

Why not start a list for messages that have been rejected from the DML. This is a good mix to get results to satisfy everyone, I'd subscribe to both.

In some cases, I think the moderators let too much crap though. It dependson which moderator is on that week, and their mood for the day. They are human, and the rules are left to interpretation. Walt and others have beentalking about valuable resources (other people who have quit) being lost from the DML, and I assure you that with a unmoderated list we would loose many more people just due to the volume of crap that goes over these lists. There is much history to back this up, just look in to other car related mailing lists. An example is the SHO list I am on, it has always been unmoderated and a year of so ago we started loosing all of the "brains" in the group due to the volume of bullshit (Kids talking about how they beat some car in a race, or a cop that had the nerve to pull them over when they were cruising at 120MPH), as a result a second list "Tech SHO" was started and had low bandwidth. It was also unmoderated, but somewhat self policed by the members. Slowly the "brains" joined the new list and started answering questions again. Lately, people have been cross posting to both lists and starting to clog up the "tech" list with bullshit to the point where I now read neither list. The Tech list really needs a moderator.... Maybe splitting the DML in to sub lists would be a positive thing considering the current size? I think so, as long as they remain moderated (except for maybe a"general discussion" group).

Gary (checksix3)- I am surprised you are ready to drop your car from a helicopter after only 2 months of ownership. Is it possible you got one of the many neglected cars out there that have been discussed on the DML for many years? After re-reading your post (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/25309), I'd say so. It is those cars that give the DeLorean a badreputation, sorry you got stuck with one. Did you really base your purchase of a 15K car on a internet mailing list?! I also agree with your "ego" statement, but point out that tone and intent of a message USUALLY does notcome across correctly in e-mail.

Nick- You post about finding information about you family in Germany does not belong on the DML. I applaud the moderator who bounced it when you first posted it. Looks like you got it though anyway in the long run! Even if someone else on the DML is interested in this topic, it is clearly NOT DeLorean.

Jim- I agree 100%. I was annoyed that the original "FatBoy" post made it though. The initial message from FatBoy was 100% a "flame" and should not have made the list. Did the moderator use poor judgment? or was there some "deal" made to get it though? I don't know, but Mike Substelny (the moderator who let it pass) DID point out "This message is both inflammatory andanonymous..." so I tend to doubt poor judgment. But as you said I got over it and moved on too!

Walt- Your right on with Moderators adding their comments to others messages. If they want to participate in the discussion, it should be under their own account with a regular response post like the rest of us do. As far as editing, I have only see long quotes deleted and I am grateful for that.If there it other editing going on, I don't know about it but obviously that is a not a good thing. I have also argued that the moderators should ALWAYS send rejection notices back to the poster with a explanation as to whyit was rejected (OK, you don't have to do this for Viagra, get rich quick,and enlarge your breasts SPAM).


I too hope this thread is closed soon... Right after my post goes thought!:)




> -----Original Message-----
> From: checksix3 [mailto:checksix3@xxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:25 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Walt quitting
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> Good for you Walt, about time someone stood up to the "moderation"
<SNIP>
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> This list is more entertainment than anything else. For me at least, 
> it certainly hasn't been a valuable source about owning and 
> maintaining this heap of junk. I'm considering donating my car for a 
> tax write off by having it dropped from 2000 feet by helicopter at a 
> local airshow in October.
> 
> Don't even think about asking me to sell it. Nothing will give me 
> greater satisfaction than to see this POS hit the ground at terminal 
> velocity. (I would have dynamited it out in the desert but would have 
> lost even more cash.) No matter what, standby. Film at eleven.
> 
> The other issue is ego. There are a lot of folks here who need to get 
> a life. Its just a car, and not much of one at that.
> 
> Walt, if decide to start a new list that has some brains and free 
> speech, let me know. It may even save this car so that it can nickel 
> and dime some other poor slob to death in the future. ;-)
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