My Opinion: Too much emphasis is placed on the competition in the show, and then a ton more time is spent giving out awards. I for one attend Ken's show because it is always sure to be a good time. All of the competition is silly especially for "modified" cars because eachone is so unique and which one is "better" is a matter of opinion... For example, the 350 Chevy conversion that won was a VERY cool car (heck, I'd love to have that!) and the owner was a real nice guy BUT if I were to judge the cars based SOLELY on the engine conversion, I'd go with the Northstar setup. That conversion was more sensible, and I just liked the overall streetable look of it over the flashy 350 conversion. The 350 did also have a cool audio system, and a number of other modifications so I assume this hadsomething to do with the results. Based on how I THINK the judges work, it's possible the 350 Chevy beat the NorthStar because the license plate lights on the NorthStar may have been dirty. Who knows?? I'd like to know! These competitions usually boil down to who has the most time and money to put in to their car, or who was lucky enough to buy a perfect car to begin with. What's so great about that? Unfortunately for me, I think I am in the minority (so speak up if you agree with me!!). If the current judging method is to continue, the criteria for each category should be communicated to everyone in advance. Especially on modified cars, how is a modification judged? (How expensive? How hard to do? How well it looks? Quality of work? Sensibility of modification?) What method will be used to quantify the judging criteria? Most of it is all personal opinion. Any my biggest complaint about any car show is there is usually no opportunity to see the cars AFTER the awards are given. It would be great if the awards were given out at the show, and the winners displayed their trophies with the car for an hour or so. This way everyone can see the winning CAR,and not jut the owner's face. How I would like to see it done for Modified cars: All modified cars still go in to one category, "modified". Set up some categories of modifications for awards. Best engine conversion Best PRV modification Best modified wheels Best entertainment system Best painted Best drastic appearance change (Convertible, Time Machine, Curtis, ...) and so on.... These awards will be selected by PEOPLE'S CHOICE. That means, a given car could possibly win multiple awards if it has been modified in multiple ways. It is a bigger compliment for DeLorean owners to give the "thumbs up" toyour modifications than a bunch of car judges who made sure you cleaned the road dirt out of the holes in the frame! If you also want the judges to go over all of the modified cars to score them on the standard stuff (cleanliness, completeness, and such) that's fine too. It's just not my thing. I hope this is the feedback you were looking for.. :) Marc -----Original Message----- From: wingd2@xxxx [mailto:wingd2@xxxx] Subject: [DML] Delorean Car Show Guidelines -(Long) OK, now that the Delorean Car Show in Memphis is over, and everyone has had a little time to unwind and relax and reflect on the event a little, we have a couple of questions we'd like to present to the DML. <SNIP>