After having done more than 1 door adjustment I also agree that most of the time I can do a "door adjustment" by just replacing the strut. Some of the adjustments I have done were to LOOSEN the torsion bar. I find it is best if the owner can agree to have the doors open pretty much by themselves but not all the way. My major test is if the door will stay open when opened all the way. This way there is no "bounce". I find it scary to see the door bounce. If you understood the amount of leverage in the door system and the stresses on the roof from having the doors open too energetically you might also loosen the bars to get rid of the "bounce". (Watch the anchors when you open the door and bounce it). I think if you have the door launchers you may need to tighten up a little more but realize that the struts are very sensitive to temperature. If we all lobby the venders maybe on the next batch of struts they can be made with a temperature compensating valve inside so they are less sensitive to changes in temperature. DO NOT TIGHTEN THE TORSION BARS TO COMPENSATE FOR AGING, WEAK STRUTS. When you finaly do replace the struts then you will REALLY see "bounce"!!!! BTW not all struts from all venders are equal. The latest from P. J. Grady seem to have a retarding effect in the last part of the opening of the door minimizing "bounce". Another little tip is to cut a small piece of rubber from an inner tube and stick it between the rear hinge and where the torsion bar passes by so it cannot get scratched. when adjusting torsion bars they can move around and touch the hinge, if scratched then the bar will fail. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxx> wrote: > FYI, five years ago when I purchased my D, I had new door struts installed > as the doors both dropped pretty good...it did SOME correction but still > needed the torsion bar adjusted. As no one around here to do it, I built the > jig and got the tools and with the help of a friend, did it myself....they > were fine.....over the last few months they began to droop again. I thought > I should start with new struts again, which I did, and then probably go the > rest of the way, with the torsion bar adjust again. Got the new struts > installed and could hardly believe that was all it took