yup! Except it does blow cold enough to keep me comfortable on a hot humid Houston day. I gas the system up about three or four times a year, but not a full can of it either. It's been a year and a half since changeover. I didn't do everything that the "experts" recommend changing. We simply drained the system via a pump and pressurized with the new gas. I never thought that the hoses were porous. I'm not sure about that. How did you come to that conclusion? -----Original Message----- From: wingd2@xxxx [mailto:wingd2@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:26 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] R-134a Conversion -- as a kit? How many of you folks would be interested in a complete R-134a conversion kit for the DMC? I think a R-134 "kit" is a great idea, but here is a little additional information for what it's worth: We converted a Delorean over to R-134 about 4 years ago to see how it would perform. We did all the regular stuff required to do the conversion correctly, like replace the oil and all the O-rings and the dryer and all the other stuff required and then charged the system up with R134. The results are the car has run fine for the last 4 years and 40,000 or so miles. The AC system puts out a decent amount of cold air and it will keep the interior comfortable on a normal Midwest summer day of 85 or so, but it definitely does not perform as well as the R-12 systems in regards to cold air output, but we kinda expected that going in to all this. The one "problem" we have run into is the original hoses on the car are porous enough that they allow the R-134 to seep out over time, causing the system to run low on refrigerant. And this "problem" seems to have gotten worse as time has gone on. We are to the point now that in order to keep the system operating correctly we are having to add a small (12oz) can of R-134 to the system once a month. And, yes, we have checked everything over, and, no, there are no other leaks in the system. As time goes on it seems the original R-12 hoses are loosing there ability to contain the R-134 more all the time. Does anyone else have any similar experiences with this ? Marty [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxx To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/