Stian, when had the same question last year, my mechanic said that in a case like that, he would "use heat, but carefully and not too rapidly." But now that I think back, I can't remember exactly where he said the heat would be applied. If the water displacers and penetrating oils and tapping don't work, I would consider the "carefully and not too rapidly" option, and of course ask your mechanic. If you don't trust yourself with an acetylene torch, I would seek help. There's no shame in it. :) Good luck, Daddy-O. And for you "Chick Magnet vs. Chuck Magnet" guys, the girl I met most recently agrees the DeLorean would be a cool car to own, after she buys her "Boss 429 Mustang." The other women I know can't understand my obsession with DeLoreans, but then again I can't understand their obsession with television dramas. Then again, the guys I know can't understand my obsession with DeLoreans, but I can't dig hockey like they can. I guess you can't have everything. Sure, I'm single, but I expect to be single after I get the DeLorean -- perhaps more so. My view is, if you like the car, drive the car. If you want to impress women, talk to them. (But not about the car. ;) Thus ends my $0.02. Farrar Hudkins New Orleans, LA '98 Ranger XLT "Laggy" -- www.wwno.org 504-280-7000