In a message dated 5/7/02 9:15:23 PM Central Daylight Time, jason@xxxx writes: > Does anyone have a simple solution that would prevent me from Oil Pan > removal anything better than a rubber plug? Jason, if you want a simple solution, pick up a 'last resort plug'. it's what we use at Jiffy Lube when we encounter just this situation. i know a lady with a 86 honda accord with over 250K miles, and the last 50K or so have been with a last resort plug. all it is, is a special plug with a rubber gasket around the back of it and there's a screw that goes thru the center of it. on the other end of the screw is one of those things that you can push thru a hole and then it will fold out, allowing you to tighten the screw w/plug against these spring loaded arms, and you can tighten the plug pretty tight because it's quite heavy duty. this is probably the best short term solution. at least then you can drive it. i agree with everyone else - eventually (maybe this winter) you need to retap it. i bet if you have a jiffy lube in your area, you could go over there and ask if they will sell a 'last resort plug' to you outright. might cost you $4 or so. if they don't know what you are talking about, describe what i told you, and then they will know. if there aren't any jiffy lubes or anything like that where you live, i'm changing my oil next week and when i have the plug out i'll grab a last resort and make sure it works in my pan, then i could send it to you. Good Luck! Andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]