David, I do have to agree with you there. Although it was my car that had the water pipe come off, it was something i was well aware about. I had also started to buy some of the pipes beforehand. Time restraints and the large amount of brake work i did to make my car safer kept my from replacing my water pipes sooner. I had Rob Grady go over my car and i got, from what i thought, a good review on my car. He only had several things to tell me about, all but 2 i was aware about. I notcied that several others had quite a large list of task to acomplish on there cars. One large aspect i notcied is that alot of the cars has very bad warm-ups, and reved up and down alot. Most likely this was because of a bad oxygen sensor, co adjustment or a vacumn leak. One scary part was that several cars did not even carry a fire extinquisher with them. One thing that I like to do, which is optional is to make sure the under part of your engine is nice and clean. When it is like this you can check for oil leaks from the pan, valve covers and at the heads. This is not so critical for some, but is nice when you run synthetic motor oil like I do. I do not mean to pick apart anyones car, mine is certainly not perfect by all respects, but i try to keep aware of whats going on/wrong with it. - Shain #10140 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > I saw most of the cars at the Spring Social close-up and have the > following comments to make on the conditions I observed: