Hi John Not sure quite what you're getting at except to say "it doesn't bother me". I think it's fair to say you're probably in the minority there, mate! Otherwise the FanZilla wouldn't sell so well, and Shain and my little banter wouldn't be attracting such off-list attention (I've had a couple of mails each day for the past week since I started talking about my design). John, we already know you can use a soldering iron, and both Shain and my intentions have always been to make the design "open source". If you want to make and sell my design (I can't speak for Shain) I wouldn't mind at all as long as you make it clear the design is there for anyone to build. At the end of the day, I'm enjoying building this thing as much as any electronics hobbyist enjoys building flashing LEDs from a 555 timer... except that this little project addresses several very real problems in the DeLorean, and saves me some money at the same time. As you may know, I've been on the DML for years, but only recently become an owner. If it weren't for the DML I would not have become an enthusiast, nor even found my car (I got it from the DMCNews for sale page, and bought it with the help of a DML member). The DML is a completely selfless endeavour in the truest spirit of the internet which I've benefitted from greatly over time. In my small way, I want to give something back - and electrics is what I'm good at *<;o) Martin #1458 dherv10@xxxx wrote: > Does all this mean that if I come up with an addition to the Fan Zilla, Like > the Fan Fix I could call it the John Zilla Fix. > All this sound great, but as most of you technical engineers know. It only > takes Milli seconds for all this switching to take place and by the time the > engine is doing all this recovering, and the fans are trying to figure out > who's on first and come on is on second next and the compressor is on first > and third. . It's over. Milli seconds. It's like getting cut, by the time > you feel it, it's over. Please don't let me interupt you guy's. I alway's > like watching engineers making all these complicated moves over almost > nothing. Were talking milliseconds. By the time the engine felt the clutch on > the compressor come on, it's over. > John Hervey < :-)