Darryl, Martin, et al, I've conceded that the LGW (light green + white) wire is not the way to go-- there is only one running up the roof for both doors. Getting a wire run back and poke down without taking the headliners down is impossible, so hooking up to the yellow is out at the moment. So that leaves me with using the solenoid ground as suggested. Maybe I should have listened to you all and saved myself a couple of days of playing/crouching/cramping. I disconnected the black ground wire running to the solenoid and earthed it to the other ground wire coming out of the harness. The two fat ground wires coming down the (US)driver's side rear corner roof bundle seem to be door solenoid ground wires. I disconnected them there and tested my actuators to the battery. No va. No go. It flashed like it was shorting the battery. I tested for continuity between those wires and frame, and sure enough, those wires are still earthed even though they are connected to my actuators and disconnected at the LH roof bundle drop down point. Can some one please save me some more hair-pulling? My hair is thinning too quickly naturally. Thanks. -Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Martin Gutkowski [mailto:webmaster@xxxx] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:54 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] car alarm door trigger If you buy Darryl's system, it'll come with instructions telling you how to wire them up. It's very easy. Darryl was kind enough to supply me with a set of instructions even though I haven't bought a kit (experimenting with my own systems as you all know!). IMO this is a better solution than using the door heater wires. Martin #1458