I just tried ordering some 235 AVS's this past weekend from Tirerack. Got a call yesterday saying that they are out of stock and out of production. This stinks. I already have mismatching tires on my car, but the fronts are still nearly new (were new when I bought the car) I figured I would get the AVSs put on the back, then probably by the end of this year those would be quickly worn and the fronts could use replacing, so I would get 4 matching tires at that time. Right now, I opted for the Yokohama Avid S/T. Its very inexpensive, but only T rated which really annoys me. Tirerack's performance chart showed this tire to be the best short term value for me. However, the smallest 14" size these tires have is 215/60 14. Oh well, we've been screwed out of an incredibly good tire, minus the rapid treadwear problem. My order has been placed and shipped (so dont bother telling me other ideas of getting the AVS's, I'm too busy AND lazy right now), from here I'll just let the list know how well these tires work if spring ever comes. Jim Reeve MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club DMC-6960