Having had the experience of buying a D new back in '82, I can say there was no testosterone even when new. to hear the horns, I almost had to first roll down the windows. Long ago I replaced my horns with Hella horns from Griot's Garage. They are that terribly irritating German style BEEP, but you can't miss them and that's why we have horns in the first place. Dick Ryan - - - - - - - -