Hi All In the light of current discussions, I have reversed my decision to post this. I was contacted by a certain gentleman who seems to think that mailing the owner's club and telling them they're all deluded imbeciles will somehow make him a better person. I have edited the discourse slightly, and the last couple of mails from him have degenerated into insults, so they're not included. I've managed to laugh at it all, as he's basically run out of arguments. The exchange has now degenerated into increasingly imaginative insults (apparently I have "less class than an empty school" - quality!). Our friendly neighborhood moderator, Mike, has asked me to put it on the web rather than in this mail because it's quite long, and of course I have obliged. If you do decide to mail him yourself (I'm sure he'd appreciate it - NOT) his e-mail's honkparphonk@xxxx - and do me a favour and BCC me on it? Please take what follows as a bit of harmless entertainment. This guy truly is an idiot of the Quentin order..... http://www.delorean.co.uk/idiot.html Martin #1458