Hi group, I'm currently looking for a 5 speed DeLorean with black leather, year doesn't matter. Having followed all the for sale ads for the past few months, I've noticed an unusual (and annoying for me!) trend, that there are very few 5 speeds for sale with black leather out there! I did a few calculations, and here's what I came up with: (NOTE: BM=Black, Manual; BA=Black, Automatic; GM=Gray, Manual; GA=Gray, Automatic). According to the DMC production chronology at: http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/img/news/n_vinmix.jpg the breakdown for total production was: BM: 36% BA: 21% GM: 34% GA: 8.2% >From a survey done of D's for sale @ dmcnews.com, I got: BM: 19.2% BA: 17.5% GM: 47.3% GA: 15.7% It seems people who own black leather 5 speed examples tend to keep them, while people who own gray leather 5 speed examples tend to sell them! Also, the black leather 5 speeds are generally more expensive than their gray leather counterparts. In fact I wish it was a gray leather example I was looking for, as there are some very good deals on offer at the moment, i.e. cars in very good condition, with updates done, for about $12,000. Is it that black leather is the preferred option? Was there ever a poll done on this? Personally I think the black leather is far nicer looking than the gray leather... And finally, if anyone knows of a 5 speed (black leather) for sale on or near the East Coast, please let me know. There were 3477 of them built, someone must know where they went! Thanks, John. PS Happy Birthday John DeLorean.