Les, Hang on a few day's. The multilevel answer is coming. The TA bolts are 10.6 hex head original in one of my cars, TS is rated at 150,800 psi. This is a good hard bolt for attaching two flat surfaces together. You will see these all over the car. Another car had replacements put in and they were Socket head cap screws rated 12.9 at 176,900 psi. These bolts are higher rated for hanging things on them that arn't flat to flat surface. Even thought they were all bent a little, how hard is to hard. None were broke. I to feel they may bend a little into place, but I would rather have them bend also than break. The 12.9 has 15% more strength than the 10.9. I'm meeting with an engineer about them in a day or two and also with a supplier for mil spec bolts to see what they have to offer and at what price. John hervey http://www.specialtauto.com/