The point to the posting is that there is no reason to always slam the DeLorean. Yes there were door problems, but they were pretty much cured with the guide blocks. Yeah you can't lock the doors and then close them. But they were not designed to operate that way anyhow. The purpose of engineering is to overcome problems. The task of engineering can become more difficult once you start implementing new concepts such as the doors (yes I know that gullwing doors were not a new idea when the DeLorean first arrived. But lets be honest. The DMC-12 was the first practicle use of them). But as far as problems go, what car doesn't have them? No car is 100% perfect. But atleast no one has been killed in a DeLorean because an engine suddenly stopped on the highway, or because the fuel tank exploded because they were rear-ended while their left turn signal was on. Combine this with the fact that the DeLorean is now 18-20 years old and have been subjected to wear and tear. I'd say that even today the DeLorean still comes out on top. The examples given of other Giugiaro related cars was to show that there are plenty of examples that both engineering and financially worse than the DeLorean. Yet he doesn't bother to mention them. The Hyundai Excell is a overall a very poor car in both handling, and performance. And when Daewoo was on the brink of bankruptcy, the top execs lied to the Korean government in order to obtain loans that they knew they would never be able to pay back. 11 convictions have proven this. That is an example of a failed company who exhausted all funds NOT DMC! If you really want to get to the root of the problems with the DeLorean, take a look at Lotus. They designed the suspension, they designed the weak front crumple tubes, and they were the ones who chose what grade bolts to use for the Trailing Arms and the other pivot bolts. My main point here was to help stop the bashing of the DeLorean "marque". Not to entice the slander of anyone, or anything else. If anythng, it was in defence of the car and the man. -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount@xxxx> wrote: > Whatever. > > What's with the giugiaro bashing? The Delorean HAS ENGINEERING PROBLEMS. > The door included. The guides, the lineup with the other panels, the > inherently sagging shocks, and the weak lower strut mount are a few > examples. > > Isn't giugiaro a DESIGNER? How could he be 'responsible' for the > engineering of the excel, or daewoo or whatever else? > > 1537