Before you can compare the two, it's best to know how they work to find out what the advantage is. First, the clutch assemby (face & spring) is mounted to the flywheel. Next the clutch disc is attached to the input shaft on the transmission, located between the clutch face and the flywheel. Quick explanation: The clutch acts as a clamp. When the clutch is engaged, the clutch will clamp the disc into place, and thus transfers power from the engine into the gearbox. When you hit the clutch pedal, the hydrolics in the system ultimately push the "fingers" on the clutch assembly in. This then retracts the spring, and releases the clamp to allow the clutch disc to spin freely. This may be a surprise, but the are made by the same compnay, Valeo. Both the clutch assembly, and the disc. On the Centerforce the differance besides some gold paint are the counter-weights on the clutch. The theory is that centrifical force from the clutch spinning forces these little weights outwards. By the way they are positioned, the weights will actually push the fingers on the clutch outwards. By doing this, the clutch gets 30% more gripping power. So basicly, the only differance between the two are the counter weights. I've had both a new OEM, and a new Centerforce clutch in my same car. I can tell you now that there is a differance. The clutch will grip better on a higher RPM grab. This results in smoother starts on hills, and with engine braking. Where I live, it isn't uncommon to have 15mph & 25mph school zones on 45mph streets. So you have to slow down to cruise by in either 1st or 2nd gears. So when my car is slowing down past 15, the Centerforce grips quickly as the force of the clutch disc begins to push against the clutch. It's less jerky than having to "pop" the clutch to quickly slow down. I would also imagine the quicker gripping also cuts down a little on clutch wear. Bottom line: If you have a "weekend only" car that only see's light driving, the OEM clutch is fine. And the same can also be said for cars that see light daily use. But if your car is a daily driver subject to stop and go traffic, and other taxing areas of the city, I would reccomend the Centerforce. Especially if you are one to drive your car a little harder than others. The Centerforce clutch is great, but I wouldn't classify it on the same level as a Zilla products, or anything else designed to overcome the a problem area. It's a nice item to have, but it isn't a nessisary one. No matter what you use the car for, the OEM will still work fine. Myself, I perfer the Centerforce. However, no matter which clutch you choose, you must also replace any defective components in the hydrolic system. This would include OEM tefflon line, and a leaking master/slave cylinder. If you don't replace faulty components, the car will eat that brand new clutch pretty quickly. I know. I wasted a brand new OEM clutch @ 2200 miles! -Robert vin 6585 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Payne" <bpayne@xxxx> wrote: > > i'm curious, what don't you like about the centerforce? it doesn't feel > much > > different from the OEM clutch to me. i just replaced mine in July with a > > centerforce. > > Andy, honestly I don't have any experience with the OEM (Valeo is it?) > clutch. The previous owner had a Centerforce installed. <SNIP>