In a message dated 10/24/2001 6:27:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jhuckins@xxxx writes: << It occurs that some of you youngsters out there may not know about PT Barnum of Barnum and Bailey Circus fame. He was a master showman, made a ton of money late 1800s early 1900s. He is best know for the phrase: "There's a sucker born every minute." >> Gee, It occurs that some of you old-timers out there may not know about John DeLorean of DeLorean and General Motors fame. He was a master showman, made a ton of money late 1960s early 1980s. Me is best known for the phrase: "They'll all fall for this sales pitch."