In a message dated 10/4/01 8:26:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, webmaster@xxxx writes: << Erm, don't you need a torsion bar adjustment to cope with the extra weight? >> Martin, In a previous post to the DML, Bob Zilla already addressed this. Here is what he said... ADDED WEIGHT & Door adjustment ? This will likely be on a case by case basis. Yes, you are adding a few pounds to each door so you would think you'd certainly need to readjust your doors. After installation, I would FIRST change the door struts BEFORE you adjust the torsion bar. You may not want to touch the torsion bar at all, the jury's still out here. Personally, I was surprised to see how much of a difference Rob Grady's struts made. It may become a matter of taste ie. how much "lift" you want from your doors & how fast you want them to snap to attention. I prefer doors that droop just a bit. This way I don't have to mussel them down EVERY time I close the door. But, this doesn't seem to be the case with the Grady Struts. Later, Nick Pitello 1852 <A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>