Subj: Re: door openers Date: 10/3/01 3:01:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: Kayo Ong To: darryl@xxxx Mr. Tinnerstet: You are right ... this thread doesn't need any further entertaining as to which units are better. What I would like to bring out is that some DeLorean cars has different wiring. The differences in the wiring is either by the factory or a previous owner's modification. The point I am going to bring forth on this posting is that because of this different wiring situation, many electrical unit are not as easy as to install as in the "plug and play" mode, therefore many people who are not as handy, or has not been prepared to go beyond this "normal" installation procedures may find themselves in a bind or "wired for fire." Here is a very good example. My very good friend who also has a DeLorean found himself in a JAM with Rob's product, the Fanzilla. He purchased it two weeks ago and he tried to install it according to instructions, only to find that it doesn't work, no way, no how. So, last week on Friday, my friend took his DeLorean to Rob to see if he can get it to work.... Rob spent a lot of time on his DeLorean to get it to work, as well as taken several other units off the shelf, thinking the unit was defective or a bad batch. Upon installing these same units on other DeLoreans he had in the shop, they ALL worked fine. On my friends car? The results was the same....ZERO. You see, Mr. Thinnerstet, this is a good point to show that if a person expect "plug and play" with a product, they may be in for disappointment and especially if they have to do more work to get the unit to work and then it still doesn't work. Now imagine if my friend lives in your area of Washington and he had to ship these units back and forth. Forget about it! Because of such unpredictable situations and to avoid getting stuck during the installation process, "I" would have the "proper people" to install the unit at their facility so if they were problem ... it could be service in "house." BTW... Rob couldn't get the Fanzilla to work and so he replaced it with the original unit and refunded my friend his money, since he doesn't have the time. They were there in Rob's shop from 12 noon to 6:30 PM that night and Rob closes at 5:30 or 6 PM. So, you see money is not an object here with my friend. He like I, we just need the product to perform as designed. Maybe, my friend should check with John Hervey about his fan relays units??? Unless you have a unit that will do the same, then I will refer him to you. Sorry Rob ... hope this posting doesn't dampen your sales..... Kayo #5508 Lic 9D NY [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]