Eric, if you have small hands, the thermal control valve is located deep under the air induction manifold and air meter assembly. you will never be able to see it without removing those parts, you can't even see it from below the car. you will have to take your hand and feel around for it. it is really right where the picture shows it to be. there should be three hoses coming off of it right in a row. i was able to find mine by holding a vacuum hose and following it down until i found where it went down there. i'm a pretty small guy so i can get my hand under there and i can feel all three hoses connected to the valve. perhaps some 'mechanic' couldn't find the thermal control valve so he just hooked hoses up to other vacuum hoses? my advice to you would be to locate the thermal control valve - if you can't, find another owner in the area who is able to get his hand down there to verify its presence. you don't have any non-stock engine modifications, do you? if you don't, i would go ahead and get all new hoses and route them the way they should be. obviously the thermal control hoses are the hardest. but be careful - if your car runs now, there's a good chance it won't run when you done because in order to get the car to run the way it is now (if it really is messed up), they probably had to play with some other things. if you don't know what you are doing, have a seasoned D owner help you out. Andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]