IT came off.....yep I did it Loads of penitrating oil, a bottle of beer and ignore the damn thing for an hour....Hey presto it slide right of first time after that. I thought it was just me. I am not alone!!! Cheers Paul 6463 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Strickland" <ihaveanaccount@xxxx> Subject: Re: [DML] Universal joint > I was just fist-fighting my rack and pinion a few weeks ago... I'll also > admit that that u-joint on the rack was a pain to get off- not much room > to get any sort of leverage..