--- Joshieloo@xxxx wrote: GVWR > of the two '81's were > listed at 3,180# and the '83 was listed at 3,244#. > Has anyone ever noticed this before. More > importantly, is there an > explanation as to the additional 64#'s for the '83? - - - - - - - - - One of the joys(?) of DeLorean ownership is trying to determine accurate statistics about the car. My 83 shows 3244# gross vehicle weight. The owners manual that came with my 81 shows a "curb weight w/full fuel tank" of 2743 lbs. So, does gross vehicle wieght include passengers? Two 200 lb. passengers????? Dick Ryan VIN 16867 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/