(ATTN: Moderator - I don't want to start a long discussion on this issue, but I felt Joe's comments called for a response.) Joe I have NEVER questioned the price or the quality of ANY of the aftermarket items especially developed by Rob, Stephen, or others. I fully recognize the economics of short run production and the need to get a return on investment. Reread my note and you'll see that I did nothing but praise Rob and his products. Having said that, there are times when many of us need to watch our pennies. While I would never put something on my car that I think is cheap, I will always look for things that adequately serve my needs and then try for the best price. That seemed to be the case with the shocks in question. I didn't knock any of the other shocks nor did I even hint that they were overpriced. I simply pointed out that there exists an alternative that is less expensive and which I found to be quite adequate for my needs. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/