I looked on E-bay for a while, and every car (about 8 of em) I looked into (thought I could get away with a good car for under $15k) was a total pile of junk :( I found that unless you want to spend 18-20K on an e-bay listing, you are better off going through a private seller in a club. I found most people selling in the 15K and under range on e-bay inherited the car, or bought it from someone else who ripped them off, and wanted to get their money back by ripping someone off. MOst oweners did not include or lied about facts. Very dissappointing. I looked at several cars, and almost cried due to their condition.... Kevin Abato Happy Owner of Vin# 6680 (Thanks again Doug!) [long quote snipped by moderator]