The springs are not the same. Grady sells a new set of front springs. I believe he has 2 different sizes depending on how low you want the front to be. For the rear, he as a special shock with a adjustable collar so you can lower the rear if you choose using the standard (stock) spring. I own neither product, but PJ Grady has a reputation for high quality products. Houston sells a set of 4 springs, when they came out I was told they were reproductions of the original Lotus designed springs. In addition, they were manufactured by the same vendor. Recently in Belfast, Michael Loasby (DMC Director of Product Development) made it very clear that the ride height of the "shipped car" was never changed. The height of the stock delorean was always the intended design based on the DOT headlight requirement. All engineering was done based on this height. With that said, I own a set of the Houston springs. When I purchased my car, it had cut springs. Because I needed to purchase a full set of springs and like the idea of having the "original design", I decided to go with the Houston product instead of getting 20 year old springs for the rear, and newer "lowering" springs for the front. Although I am happy with the overall look and performance, they are very expensive. On closer inspection to my car, I was also unhappy with the variation of height between the left and right side of the car (although I have not yet verified that is this the fault of the springs). Needless to say, I felt a bit ripped off when Mike Loasby shattered the myth about the "correct" ride height. Chris of the DOC was selling a spring kit in Belfast for 60 Sterling Pounds (I think), That's about $100 USD. I hear they are a high quality product. I did see a set sold to a owner from the USA, so maybe he will comment on the quality of the product. The price is good though! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Bunnell [mailto:dmcsteve@xxxx] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:38 AM To: DMC Mailing List Subject: [DML] suspension update In reference to the shock and lowering springs update that DMC Houston provides... Is this update the same as the new PJ Grady shocks/springs update? Or are they two different systems? If they are different, how do they differ? Steve #11611 Boulder, CO