Walt, I don't have the vin breakout number but there was a change in the brake light circuit. One version uses a separate circuit which uses fuse #18 which is hot at all times. The more common version is part of circuit (fuse) #4 and is wired to the accessory relay. DMC Joe "We're here to help you" DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp@xxxx> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com"> DeLorean services.com DMC.tv is in your future ..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:17 PM Subject: [DML] Brake/stop light wiring variations I have noticed two wiring variations on DeLorean stop lights and am wondering if anyone can say what this is about. On my car VIN 3633, the stop light circuit is always hot meaning that even though the ignition is switched off, the stop lights still come on when I press the brake pedal. On Randy's car VIN 3228, the stop light circuit is only hot when the ignition is switched on. If you are sitting in the car with the key removed from the ignition and press the brake pedal then the stop lights won't operate. Can anyone say which variation is the norm on DeLoreans? Is it likely that both cars left the factory in this configuration or was one of the cars modified? Walt Tampa, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]