Well Jim, For everybody's information, I did not DROP the torsion bar on the ground. Instead of STRONGLY RECOMMENDING SOMEONE NOT BUY/BID, why don't you suggest they e-mail me and ask of its condition? James Kirsch --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxx> wrote: > Yes that is a torsion bar. When removed from the mounts and the door > hinges this is what it looks like. HOWEVER, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND > AGAINST buying/bidding on this part.