This is one of those recurring threads, that leads one to the "there are two kinds of people" statements. There are those who enjoy re- engineering/ improving/ over-restoring cars, and those who enjoy maintaining and showing the cars as-originally designed. There are also those who polish them and those who drive them (sometimes the same person). You see this in almost any group of car enthusiasts, the "purists" vs the "performance" people, and then with some you even get the "gut the car and race it" types. They seldom understand each other. I guess the message here is not to try and convert anyones thinking, and to appreciate each other for what we value. An example of this is the radical custom DMC that shows up at the Ohio shows; you may not like it, but you can appreciate the work that went into it. Same for the V-8/turbo/etc engine conversions. We are fortunate enought that there are enough DeLoreans in circulation, in a wide enough variety of conditions, that doing such things is not exactly as heinous as putting a Chevy engine in a 1962 Ferrari would be. Dave Swingle <<=== part-time automotive philosopher