hello all, following John's suggestions and steve's scans (thanks a LOT for those jpeg's!) i have successfully taken apart the panels on my driver's side door. the right-hand screw that holds the door handle on almost got stripped on the head, but luckily i gave it one more shot and it turned loose. excellent! i replaced my air deflector (which fortunately didn't need rivets drilled out, whoever it was that told me that!!) and i took the time to bring the lower panel home so i could clean the lower carpet trim really well. i used some 409 carpet cleaner, and what a difference that made! the carpet is good as new, now! the only real difficulties i had with my door was i broke a couple of the plastic tree rivets when removing the upper panel from the outside. i think it will still go back on with the rest of them still good without leaving anything looking bad though. other than that, many thanks, once again, to the DML for making life as easy as possible:-) andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]