Dave, Be careful removing the old rivits!!!! You can end up with little dimples (pardon the use of this overused word) on the top of your door. Bill Lane Vin 3635 Delorean17@xxxx wrote: > Hello List, > I bought upper door seals for my car from PJ Grady a long time ago but > never got around to installing them. myne are thrashed. I have the new > pop-rivets but was wondering how you got the old ones out