Hi, I hope this will close this thread once and for all!! Here in Florida we have metal detectors on every intersection! They sense that a car is waiting for a green light and change the lights. BUT I intentionally said METAL detectors. Who had the idea that those are iron detectors? That makes no sense at all. Kevin Creason said that he had a problem triggering the detector on a motorcycle. That is not because there is low content of iron in a bike, that because the bike is so small compared to a car. Look at the detector loop installed at an intersection, it's rectangular. If you stop your bike right in the middle it will not 'see' you, but if you stop over the embeded wire it will detect even a bicycle! Those are metal detectors and metal detectors detect all kinds of metals no only iron. (METAL detectors - not iron detectors) So, as long as the frame is made of metal OR as long as your suspension is made of metal OR as long as you have metal engine OR you have metal body panels you will have no problem triggering the detector - ANY metal, that is (well maybe not mercury, I don't think it will work to make car parts out of it). ;o) If you don't belive me, just go to a store and buy a metal detector, it's the same thing as the one used to trigger the lights... just the loop is smaller. Now, try and see if it will detect iron only or if it detects all metals. Have fun. Take care everybody Tom Niemczewski vin 6298 tomcio@xxxx > From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687@xxxx> > Seriously though, if you had an aluminum or stainless frame, I don't know if > you could trigger stop lights. I can remember my buddy and I sitting at a > stop light for AGES on our Ninja's, 1000cc's between us. It wasn't until a > car pulled up behind that it changed...... > I doubt that there is more iron in a DMC w/out the frame than two crotch > rockets. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com