Richard, I think we've just about killed this thread ourselves "hope so anyway" but just wanted to say I'm not really a big fan of the movies. It just seems like they "the movies" didn't cause much if any harm when you can pull up to a stop light and see people smile at you, not laugh. They really seem to like the opportunity to look the car over for a moment and most of the time they only know what it is because of the movies. Just my opinion. Mike Atkinson vin 16232 "Mike, while I mostly agree with what you said on the BTTF movies......" Richard