Frankly, I don't think tires should be an issue in Concours. The NCT's (at least mine) were not totally bad, I just didn't trust them. But I am a daily driver. Not that my car couldn't be Concours winner, it is in excellent shape. So I bought a new issue of BFG's Radial T/A's with "lateral stability" or some such salestalk. I love how quiet they are compared to my NCT's and probably in comparision to the Yoko's. And great braking power too. I did squeal to a stop once or twice on the NCT's, but today I did an amazing stop with no squealing at all. I am very pleased. And even though my BFG RTA's don't have a 2000 "H" rating, they far exceed the performance of 1981 "H" tires. IMHO. And I saved over $100 to spend elsewhere on the car/family/house. When people go to replace tires it is personal preference. Just because some people prefer Yokos does not make them the Concours standard, does it? If a part, such as the NCT's, have to be replaced, why not leave that to personal preference and just judge them on looks? Which looks better? That might be Yokos anyway... :) Another issue-- I just found out my car was lowered by the dealership before the first owner took it home. They apparently lowered all DMC12's before they left to go home (see my earlier post and any responses from people about that practice. I have no reason to doubt the first owner). How does a dealership lowering effect a Concours judging? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc A Levy" <malevy@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [DML] Re: NCT's in Concours > The point has been made, and I agree, that even if a good LOOKING set of 20 year > old tires are found, that in no way indicates that they are safe. > > Frankly, I dont know why anyone would risk safety (or even reliability) for a > trophy. Furthermore (as I have said before), I can't understand why any > DeLorean "authority" would encourage such a practice. Points should be DEDUCTED > for 20 year old tires, along with any other original unsafe items. > Mike Substelny wrote: > <SNIP> > > Based on the experience of judging the truely fine concours cars in Saint Louis > > and Cleveland, I know that there are still some excellent condition NTCs