Group, I don't understand why DMC has not picked up on the fact that we want more juice (HP) from the DeLorean. Buying a 5,000 engine seems a bit extream. My son owns a Ford Ranger and can buy whatever he wants. I know what the response is going to be, we are such a small market and the design would be non-cost effective. A header-cat-muffler with four pipes comming out the end of the car would not only sound good but improve performance. The original parts could be taken off and stored, that cross over pipe is spendy. Well what do we think, more off the shelf HP. Jim Vin 4149 "ELMO" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail