Roger, The syntax on how you are connecting your meter is not clear, but I'll take a stab at what your problem may be. Randy's car has a similar problem which is that his starter disable relay is always active even when the ignition is switched off. So if he leaves his car with the key removed and the transmission in park or neutral, then the relay stays switched on and his battery drains. Disconnecting the battery or leaving the car in any gear kills the relay. So with your ignition switched off, try putting your car in anything besides park or neutral and listen for the starter disable relay. --- that is if your car is an automatic. Maybe a manual transmission works the same way. I don't know. Just a shot in the dark... And can anyone suggest what is up with Randy's car? What would cause the relay to operate with the ignition off? Walt Tampa, FL