I feel I must add my opinion having participated and won in 2 coucours events recently. To Mark if you don't like the rules change them. When and if you enter you agree to go by the rules and the judging manual was very complete. Judges always hold back something to help diferentiate between close cars. If all of the members are in disagreement with a particular item then this is the perfect forum to discuss and maybe change it.If everyone defaults and lets James and Steve set he rules then don't complain. Certainly don't complain if you don't even compete. I don't agree with all of the rules either but I accepted them as they were to enter the concours. With input and further refinement they can be even better but the judging manual as it is was a momunental job to create,(the factory never envisioned this). David Teitelbaum vin 10757