To DMC joe and the list I have done this test to my own car. I would not ask for someone to do anything with their car that couldn't be done safely by competant individuals. BE WARNED - IF CONDUCTED IMPROPERLY IT IS POSSIBLE TO DAMAGE THE CAR AND THE NEIGHBERHOOD. I need a couple of other owners to test their torque converters so I can come up with a stall speed not just of my own car. I cannot find any reference to a stall speed in the service literiture. It is an important specifacation. The last thing I would want to hear is that someone tried this test and damaged their car or worse hurt someone. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 [VERY LONG QUOTATION SNIPPED BY MODERATOR]