In some cars with very modern up-to-date ABS systems, you can consistently get slightly better braking distances with ABS. There aren't that many of them where that is true. That said, I agree that the driving school is better for a number of reasons. I doubt that the D could be set up with THAT good of an ABS system without spending more on it than the car itself is worth. And the driving skills you learn go far beyond threshold braking. Look into a local autocross club. They will quite often hold a novice school in the spring of the year before the new season kicks off. Cost is quite often less than $50 in most areas. You can locate local clubs at http://www.autocross.com/ After you've taken the novice class, or even if you don't, then attending a few of autocrosses is also very good for your driving skills, as well as being a blast! Mark N VIN 6820 Autocross your DeLorean in St. Louis on October 22nd. Details at http://www.midstatedmc.com/ under events. At 02:22 PM 9/27/00 -0400, William T Wilson wrote: <snip> >That said, I think you are better off to take a performance driving school >and learn how to do threshold braking. A driver skilled in braking >nuances can often get better stopping distances in the same car without >ABS vs. with it. And as a bonus, you get a set of driving skills that >works in any care you might drive. Yes, these can be expensive - but >probably cheaper than an ABS conversion :}