Gus, thanks very much for the reply. There's alot of usefull information. I'll put your e-mail aside for future reference. I did go back and look at some of the archives, but to do like you did would be pretty much a full time weekend deal for the next month. I did go through this web site FAQ and other information. Also visited a couple of other good Delorean web sites, enough to realize that maintaining these cars is not a problem and there is an excellent network of owners out there willing to exchange information on parts and maintenance. I'm now convinced that I want to buy one. I love the looks of the Delorean. I also own a Subaru SVX, so it must be the Guigairo stying. You're not far from Colorado Springs, hopefully we'll run into each other at a future Delorean event. Let the adventure begin...... Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: RE: [DML] Delorean for sale - low oil pressure > Jack, > > When I was considering a Delorean purchase, I found this mailing list and > read the archives. All of them. Perhaps you're not that serious and/or > crazy but I'll share what I learned. > > First, there are a number of things that were defective on the car when it > shipped in 1981, all of which will need replacement if not already done. > The window regulators are one such item. This is likely the problem with > the passenger window and the driver's side is probably not far behind. The > door lock module was under engineered and, in the worst case, will lock you > inside the car and burn up the solenoids in the doors. The "Fan Fail" > module was aptly named, as it made your fans fail and caused overheating. > There are also trailing arm bolts that could shear, faulty inertia switches > that could leave you stranded, etc. (The last three items, among others, > prompted factory recalls and should have been fixed under warranty by a > diligent original owner.) > > Don't let these things scare you though. The point I'm making is that these > things will need to be attended to, no matter what Delorean you buy, unless > they've already been fixed. That's my worry with buying a low-miles > Delorean: the previous owners could have owned the car for 20 years without > addressing these items. Fortunately, since these problems were pervasive > the fixes are well documented, and modern replacement parts are readily > available. > > There are also problems can can crop up from neglect, such as sun damage, > but these thing will happen to any neglected 20-year-old car. Again, > replacements are available for things like seats and steering wheels. > > As for the oil pressure, the value you observed is low for a Delorean. But > the PRV engine is the most reliable part of the car. It is more likely to > be a bad electrical connection. The broken radio is only important if > you're trying to keep the car original and NOS replacements are still > available. > > Keep in mind "Rule of Twenty," which dictates that, on average, the cost of > the car PLUS the cost of repairs/updates is about $20,000. Your actual > milage may vary, but if you get a daily driver for under that amount for are > more fortunate than most. > > Sorry about the bike. Glad you weren't hurt too bad! > > > Gus Schlachter > Austin, TX > VIN# 4695 > > > P.S. Get a buyer's checklist at > http://www.delorean.com/english/more/Downloads/downloads.asp > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack Janney [mailto:fastride@xxxx] > > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:45 PM > > Subject: [DML] Delorean for sale - low oil pressure > > > > > > Hi there. I am new to the Delorean world. I recently crashed my > > Buell S2T (motorcycle) and have decided it's maybe time to get > > off two wheels and into four. I've owned a variety of > > 60s/70s/80s muscle and sports cars. I started looking at > > Deloreans because they seem to be a very good value right now - I > > love the looks, and based on inflation, etc, in todays dollars > > new ones would be selling for about the cost of a Dodge Viper. > > Good condition 20K to 30K mile examples seem to be trading in the > > low to mid teens. > > There is an '81 for sale in my area that I'm considering. It's a > > two owner car. The twenty-something year old owners' father > > bought it new. He's had it about 5 years and doesn't look like > > he's treated it exceptionaly well although claims it has always > > been garaged. It's a fairly early car, build date is June 81 and > > vin is 2044, mileage is 32K. He started out asking $14,000 but > > is now down to $12,000. Stainless steel is very good, original > > wheels are good. Leather on seats are as good as can be expected > > for being 20 years old. Transmission shifts well in all gears, > > but clutch is very stiff, which leads me to believe it needs to > > be replaced? There is some general wear and tear on the steering > > wheel hub, the leather piece on the drivers side that everyone > > seems to rub getting in and out. General condition just looks > > like it has been neglected in recent years. Oh, two things are > > broken. The radio doesn't work, and the passenger window won't roll up. > > Here's the thing that has me questioning if I should even make an > > offer (I am thinking of offering $10,500). The oil pressure at > > idle is half way between 0 and the first hash mark (10 psi?). > > Above idle it goes to about the third hash mark (60 psi?). > > > > So two questions for you owners out there. Would the oil > > pressure at idle scare you away? Is ~$11K a fair price for a car > > of this mileage and condition? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Jack Janney > > > > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@xxxx > >