In a message dated 9/21/00 7:02:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, srubano@xxxx writes: << f I were you I would upgrade to the DELCO alternators that are available. >> Yeah. I know, (sigh.) I've spent several thousand dollars on my D since February. I haven't got a "twenty thousand dollar" D yet, investment wise, but I am carrying a credit card balance. I got a "D parts car Motorola" and had it tested at my friendly auto electric shop. That's what I installed. Frankly, voltage wise, I see no difference. Arggh! A compromise, but we never carried a credit card balance for, oh, say twenty three plus years. My wife doesn't mind my car hobby but an unpaid credit card balance drives her CRAZY. Today I replaced not only the alternator but the lower speedo cable and fuel pump. Labor: $100. I was afraid it would be a lot higher. :) I'll spring for a Delco when Mr. Amex says "no payment due!" -Wayne 11174