<< drove 5 hours to Cleveland and saw John for >about 5 seconds getting into a car. >> When I signed up for the show, JZD wasn't even mentioned, I don't believe. Anybody who saw him, got to as a free bonus, I figure. My son and I couldn't drive out in our D due to my work and his other responsibilities. We couldn't even get there until ten minutes after the dinner began on Saturday. But though there was a lot we just couldn't get free to do earlier, we had a terrific time. It was great to meet many faces that go with the cryptic screen names. And great to be with fellow D fans. A really wonderful group of people. We had a fantastic time, with or without our D or it's creator. We did get to chat with Kathryn (sp?) several times though! :) -Wayne and Rick "Living the dream" 11174