Marc and others: (I'll try to make this as fair as possible so that it gets by the moderators. I'm a little surprised this thread has gone on as long as it has this time.) I just read the DOA editorial, and am not at all surprised by their attitude. It is billed as a non-profit club, but is tightly run by a small group in LA. I was a loyal DOA member for years, and an advertiser many times. In the beginning, it was basically all we had. Even though I ran ads with prices that beat all competitors, one thing struck me as odd - seldom if ever did I get even an inquiry from anyone listed on the editorial page as a club officer. They were never supportive of me at all. But that's okay, I have plenty of other customers who seem to like my services. But the thing that drove me away was their "our way or get out" attitude and their unquestioning support of one particular officer and retailer. Many members who dared to question practices were literally thrown out. One former board member sent me a verbatim transcript of a board meeting, and it was shocking. In it, the defacto leader of the club referred to the members as "nobodys, jerks - who needs them?" and much worse. One of the most respected members of the DeLorean service community, and a very nice guy, was forced to resign, saying "his conscience would not allow him to continue". (There's a lot more to this story, but that's enough for here.) After many years of trying in vain from a long ways away to get them to abide by CA non-profit laws, I gave up and quit. And Robert, good luck to you if indeed you do decide to drop in on a DOA board meeting representing the DML. I've heard many, many first hand reports about how that kind of "interference in their business" has been handled before. Please keep us posted. As I have said many times, keep up the good work DML. Only a free flow of information insures that all sides, good and bad, are heard. It will NOT diminish the value of the car, trust me. It will make for informed buyers/owners, instead of those who get upset because "nobody warned them" about some potential problem, usually easily fixed. -- Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive McCleary, WA