Second part of Fuel additives & Efficiency message. Additional factors such as combustion heat loss to the cooling system, frictional losses from rotating and reciprocating parts, and the losses sustained merely pumping the fuel / air mixture into and the exhaust out of the engine make the efficiency even worse than Carnots law would predict. Current implementations of internal combustion engines and, believe it or not, those that have existed for many years are already very close to the theoretical maximum efficiency. Only very slight gains in actual efficiency through computer fuel injection and ignition systems have been realized. How then is it that cars get better fuel mileage today than thirty years ago? The answer is simple: gains in fuel economy have NOT been realized through higher efficiency of the engines. Rather they have been achieved through: Radial Tires: lower rolling resistance. Higher coolant temperatures: less combustion heat loss to the cooling water. Streamlining the body: lower air resistance. Smaller cars: lower weight needs less power ( fuel ) to accelerate. This results in lower losses when the car is stopped. Stopping a car wastes fuel by transferring energy into heat in the brakes. These are the reasons that all of these super carburetors and fuel additives cannot increase the efficiency of existing engines. Another area of interest is with regard to the loss of efficiency that is caused by catalytic converters. This area is a very small loss in efficiency compared to the others mentioned above. This is because the catalytic converter and the exhaust system as a whole contributes to losses only through back pressure. Higher back pressure results in more energy being wasted pumping the exhaust out of the engine. Unfortunately, contrary to common belief, this loss is very small. The pressure in the exhaust port of an operating engine is quite low, much less that one pound per square inch. A catalytic converter is basically a straight through pipe, that contains a sheet of something like asbestos ( may even BE asbestos ) that has been loaded with a Platinum powder. A VERY small amount of it I might add. As such the converter contributes very little to back pressure and hence very little penalty to efficiency. A much bigger contributor to loss of efficiency due to the exhaust system is the system itself. The muffler is the biggest loss, followed by bends and twists in the exhaust pipe. Bends and twists increase backpressure a lot. Another factor is the basic internal size of the exhaust system: a bigger internal diameter pipe has lower losses. Eliminating the muffler, getting rid of all the bends and twists, and increasing the internal diameter provides a fairly large increase in fuel economy. Indeed if one looks the exhaust system in a racing car it is possible to see all these features in place. In the end analysis there is no free lunch. Regards, George Ryerson Yellow '83 DMC DbPgmr@xxxx